HowTo: protect your possessions from thieves

the_actual_God

New Member
Chestprotect would be the measure of choice (And by the way, "/cp" is the same command with less typing.), but Notch's last update that brought the block-comeback-lag also made some modifications incompatible (which is not Notch's fault), and there is as of yet apparently no reliably working Chestprotect version.

It seems that whenever the server is restarted, the Chestprotect data is lost - and so all chests are suddenly unprotected. If I were you, I would not rely on Chestprotect.

One way to keep the most important stuff safe is to just keep it on your person. However, there's a bug that overwrites the last inventory slot on the right, directly above the toolbelt. If Notch doesn't fail somewhere there with one of the next updates, you should be perfectly fine if you keep the most valuable stuff on your person (except last slot). And, to make sure your player inventory is saved, disconnect. Though, I personally keep my most valuable stuff in chests, and that never failed me. If you use them carefully, that is - see above linked text ("bug").

HIDE your stuff!

The best place to hide your stuff is far away from populated locations somewhere on the virtually infinite map. Just as an example: Far away from the spawn, swim to the middle of the sea, dive to the ground, dig down, close the shaft up behind you, go to the bottom of the world and build a storage space. Pumpkins, diamond, gold, iron, the good stuff. Put it there.

And don't worry about admins or moderators teleporting players to you when you're there: They are not allowed to do so without the explicit OK of you, the target location person. With good reason, as you see. And if someone suddenly appears there, it would be an admin or moderator. It's one of their duties to check on people from time to time. The griefer that didn't get to your house (or the duper that was about to poison the world with conjured items and water down the importance of everything) was banned because the police did their job right.

Well, and then you teleport to your hidden treasures whenever you need to access them. And that's the tricky part if you're "just a guest player" because that uses up your free /home position, so you will have to walk to your actual house from the /spawn every time. That's just the way it is. But it's a solution, nonetheless. Another solution would be to hide chests in walls or beneath the floor, so the /home location is not used up by them.

There are "guest" players and VIPs. Guests have two points they can teleport to: The /spawn where everyone starts their adventure, and the /home (that you can set freely at any time by chatting "/sethome"). VIPs can also /warp to named locations (and there's more, but irrelevant for this text - Oh wait, one other thing is definitely worth mentioning: When the map is reset the next time (Feb 1st 2011), VIPs will keep all the items they have in their personal inventory. Other players will lose it all.).

(Dude, it's just 15 US$, the server crew is good, the people try to improve the server constantly, and the owner is very level-headed. The people on the server are even nice. They don't insult each other, they trade, it's the place to me, man. Minecraft SMP as Notch intended. It's not wasted money, and it all goes to server hardware. And you wouldn't grief if you paid money, right. Because you can still get banned! And so, you'd be among people who are bound to reason. It does, admittedly, not guarantee absolute security from maliciousness.)

If you're a VIP, you're blessed because then you can ask an admin to create a warp point just for you. The warps are not public (except a few), no one but the admins and moderators know them. If you don't tell anyone, no one will ever get to your stuff. But take care that the "/warp" command is at the very beginning of your chat line! Or everyone will see where you just wanted to go. Then you'd have to ask an admin to give the warp a new name.

If you ever want to show your secret place to someone, you can ask an admin or a moderator to teleport the person to you, you don't have to give up the warp name. But careful. They could do /sethome at your place. Better be a bit paranoid about it. It's just as valuable even if no one knows about it.
 

SgtSpike

Site Admin & Server Owner
Staff member
Good thoughts on this... Chest Protect is broken until further notice, but I know that the author is working on fixing it with a different approach in the code. Chests that were protected BEFORE the update seem to work just fine, but chests protected after the update seem to only be saved randomly.
 

kart8305

New Member
As a computer guy, my initial response is to say "security through obscurity is no security at all". Then again, as an urban bike rider, I can tell you that if you make your stuff just a bit harder to steal than somebody else's, the thieves will ignore your bike and go for the one that's faster to take.

Teleporting to a hidden location is a pretty good idea with only one drawback: you have to give up use of /sethome for other purposes. In the past I've gone dungeon hunting by digging evenly spaced vertical shafts all the way down to bedrock. Doing /sethome at the surface and warping back up after each hole is way easier than climbing.... though I guess you could always dump dirt and jump to get back up.
 

SgtSpike

Site Admin & Server Owner
Staff member
kart8305 said:
As a computer guy, my initial response is to say "security through obscurity is no security at all". Then again, as an urban bike rider, I can tell you that if you make your stuff just a bit harder to steal than somebody else's, the thieves will ignore your bike and go for the one that's faster to take.

Teleporting to a hidden location is a pretty good idea with only one drawback: you have to give up use of /sethome for other purposes. In the past I've gone dungeon hunting by digging evenly spaced vertical shafts all the way down to bedrock. Doing /sethome at the surface and warping back up after each hole is way easier than climbing.... though I guess you could always dump dirt and jump to get back up.
On the other hand, security through obscurity is better than no security through no obscurity, which is pretty much the only other option we have right now. :) I agree though, it is not ideal. Hopefully, the author will come out with a fix soon. I don't really want to switch plugins, as that would cause the remaining protected chests that are working to become unprotected as well.
 

coffeejunky

Server Moderator
the_actual_God said:
kart8305 said:
(void points and repetition of what was already said)
I can't see a reason that you wrote that, other than boredom.
I'm just saying, but the same could be said of your response :p
Very good points made in the OP, I would also suggest to always make a 1-block deep water-fall across the entrance of your vault (if it has one). This will help prevent anybody from flooding your vault with lava (which may be a significant issue when health works). Any lava that touches the water will turn to cobble or obsidian.
 
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