I'm not a baby!

[rampaging13]

I'm quite disappointed with all the rules be enforced on Mumble, such as the "No foul language" rule. But the trust that no one was using foul language wasn't enough... we had to make a "Spy Channel" appropriately labeled "Echelon". I feel babied and like someone is constantly looking over my shoulder. Not only in real-life, (referring to my mother), but in a game. If someone can't handle hearing a foul word(s) then they should do one of few things:
1) Change chat channels. There are many available to everyone's use.
2) Mute the person using the foul language. If you don't like hearing the person use that type of language, you don't have to hear them.

As I said in my ban appeal, which most of you reading this have read, then I do recall stating that we are being HEAVILY monitored and we are getting stricter, and stricter, and stricter, and so on... I believe this post was COMPLETELY necessary to post because of a multitude of complaints on Mumble. These people will remain nameless until they notify me, and give me the "go ahead" on individualizing them.

Thank you for your time!
Sincerely, Rampaging13

 

[hacattack3000]

You mean boston, gordo, and yourself?

We are not getting stricter. Before we were on vent, it was Kiwinz'. He paid for it, he could make the rules for it. This mumble belongs to SgtSpike. It is the play.minecraft.cc mumble which is a G-rated server. You have to understand that even in mumble you have to watch your language because we have very young children that play this game and sometimes get into mumble. With you guys swearing like sailors, the children are being subjected to profanity that they shouldn't be on this G-rated server.

The Echelon channel is NOT used to monitor people's language from another channel. It is only used for when we have suspicions of a player advertising, disrespecting other players, and things along those lines.

There has never been any moderator or any rules in-game either that have gotten any more strict at any point. You guys yourself are the ones creating the rules by purposely breaking them or trying to find loop holes that everyone can clearly see which we are then forced to fill.

 

[SgtSpike]

The rules on Mumble have always matched the gameserver rules. We just haven't enforced them as much as we should have in the past.

The rules are there to protect younger ears. It has nothing to do with what people can handle, and everything to do with what an angry parent might do (or how much they might sue me for) should they find a server full of swearing with no appropriate warning.

I'm not sure what the laws say exactly regarding COPPA, or how the current "spy channel" is set up, but it seems as though if we set up a separate channel in mumble with a token that HAD to be entered by the client in order to use said channel, and then posted the token up on the forums along with a warning that there may be content inappropriate for children below the age of 13, I wouldn't have a problem with swearing in said channel. I am just trying to protect myself and the well being of the community from sue-happy Americans.

 

[PD400]

Well said Spike. Although, I'm pretty sure one cannot file a lawsuit for a child learning a new word from the internet. On the other hand though, some of the things curse happy people say to each other could be considered pornography in a court of law.

Aren't legal loopholes fun?

 

[SgtSpike]

Lol, I'd just rather not take the chance.

Some people are here just because there is no swearing allowed too, don't forget that! There aren't very many other servers that have the same rules regarding language.

 

[eaglestallon]

Rampaging, I sent those texts to you explaining about said channel. I haven't been on recently to continue what I was working on last night. (Real life jobs can be a pain sometimes.) I would be happy to discuss this further in a PM or on mumble later tonight.

 

[rampaging13]

What texts?

 

[rampaging13]

The rules on Mumble have always matched the gameserver rules. We just haven't enforced them as much as we should have in the past.

The rules are there to protect younger ears. It has nothing to do with what people can handle, and everything to do with what an angry parent might do (or how much they might sue me for) should they find a server full of swearing with no appropriate warning.

I'm not sure what the laws say exactly regarding COPPA, or how the current "spy channel" is set up, but it seems as though if we set up a separate channel in mumble with a token that HAD to be entered by the client in order to use said channel, and then posted the token up on the forums along with a warning that there may be content inappropriate for children below the age of 13, I wouldn't have a problem with swearing in said channel. I am just trying to protect myself and the well being of the community from sue-happy Americans.

LOVE IT!

 

[lakenanners]

Pretty much the youngest age for the server is 11. I am 11 and it doesn't really matter to me I have a wide vocabulary with swears galore, so yeah.

 

[FrothingLuck]

Lol, I'd just rather not take the chance.

Some people are here just because there is no swearing allowed too, don't forget that! There aren't very many other servers that have the same rules regarding language.

As much as I troll, there is no honest need to curse. Especially in the server.

 

[Hudy]

As much as I troll, there is no honesst need to curse. Especially in the server.

Time to troll a troll. You spelled honest wrong.

 

[FrothingLuck]

Time to troll a troll. You spelled honest wrong.

I disagree. Check it again.

 

[Hudy]

I disagree. Check it again.

You sneaky bugger!

 

[Vargess]

Well said Spike. Although, I'm pretty sure one cannot file a lawsuit for a child learning a new word from the internet. On the other hand though, some of the things curse happy people say to each other could be considered pornography in a court of law.

Aren't legal loopholes fun?

The problem isn't about a younger individual learning a new vocabulary. It is about having access to such areas of a service that we provide for the general public, and without having a way to lock down and control such features that would be the issue which would allow such a lawsuit. These sorts of cases happen more often than most would probably realize.
As this has been an issue for some time now, we will have to devise a formal way to allow this while protecting our legal responsibilities.

 

[PD400]

Hopefully my post didn't come off as supporting cursing. That wasn't my intention. Personally, I feel excessive cursing is for the weak minded. The use of a "taboo" word once in a while to express frustration is a different matter, in my opinion. However, minors don't need any more negative experiences. What with drugs, sex, money, and appearences playing on their psyches anyway.

My two cents. Insert into the machine and get a prize if you like.

 

[FrothingLuck]

My two cents. Insert into the machine and get a prize if you like.

I got in trouble at work because I laughed so hard at this post.

 

[rampaging13]

All I'm saying is I don't like being hounded and being CONSTANTLY watched. I understand the issue and have found that the best solution is for me to be on Mumble until a solution is conjured.
And I am in full support of what PD400 said. Not every sentence needs to have a foul word in it, but people (in particularly mods) are getting mad at the slightest murmur of a foul word.

 

[FrothingLuck]

All I'm saying is I don't like being hounded and being CONSTANTLY watched.

Says the child holding a paintball gun in his profile picture.

Not every sentence needs to have a foul word in it, but people (in particularly mods) are getting mad at the slightest murmur of a foul word

I disagree. If anything its just regular players that are blowing up the chat with "plzzzz no curses gais!!!" "NO FOUL LANGUAGE" etc. I've seen mods ask people to watch there language but never to the exent that you exemplify in your arguement. While I do not know of the situation on mumble, I can assure you there is no reason to type out a vulgarity in the chat on the minecraft server. Typing out a vulgarity means cognitively thinking of the word. Pondering about whether or not to type it, then bringing up the chat prompt, typing out the word and pressing enter. Look, if you find the need to curse outside of minecraft thats your deal, but don't bring your immature language into the server because it makes you feel "less of a baby"

 

[rampaging13]

Excuse me Frothing, first of all I was referring to being a baby by be constantly monitored and spied on not the respect that cursing, it was just something else I NEEDED to bring up. Second of all, the Mumble isn't just associated with playing on Minecraft CC. It has a Terraria, League of Legends, and a generic Other Games channel. Now, I don't think; like I said before; that cursing is necessary, but then again putting it off limits to people that don't care, or that are respectful enough to be wary of others thoughts, views, and feelings, should have the ability to do more mature actions, permitting they show that they can handle it. I understand that this is a touchy subject, and will need to be looked as a matter of state/internet laws and should be completely treated as such, but I have come up with my personal solution, which is using Skype as a means of communication rather than the Mumble associated with the Minecraft CC server for the time being. I will being returning to Mumble when an adequate solution has been made.
If you would like to add me on Skype, my name is Nico Griffin, I'm the one that lives in New York.
Thank you! Rampaging13