Minecart Mania Automations - Your Choice

Do we keep automations?


  • Total voters
    26

PD400

<3
So, seeing as we now have the old maps back, it's time to decide. Keep in mind that if we keep them, you are not required to use them. However, many people DO like them, and use them quite frequently. So it seems to me it would be best to keep them, but this vote will decide that.

Do you want to keep it how it is and have no automations (By automations, I mean auto-tree farms and harvesters that collect and replant farming produce).

Or do we bring back automations?

You decide.
 

SgtSpike

Site Admin & Server Owner
Staff member
Just FYI, we won't necessarily side with the majority on this. But input is appreciated, as always, so discuss/vote away. ;)
 

satansoldier

Dark Member
With the exception of PvP, having an advantage doesn't matter. It adds something to the game that many people like, while not forcing anyone who doesn't like it to use it. Given the vanilla minecart upgrades, autocart is no longer necessary, and as its the only part of MM that would affect those who don't want to use it, it should be disabled. I fail to see what the argument is for removing automation. If its a question of lag, autocart causes more lag than automation. farms are contained in a specific area, autocart can send a cart 100's of chunks in one direction, then bounce back and do it again.
It comes down to this; Don't like it, Don't use it.
 

oliverw92

Retired Administrator
I should say that automations are not currently on the server. They are broken. And yeah as Sgt said the results of this poll will be taken into consideration, but may be overridden unless someone can give some excellent arguments
 

micko888

MCCC Sprite Artist/Designer
haha my poor little minecart goes round and round and round but never is able to cut my trees :( alwell its just fun watching him go round and round and round and round and round and round and .... ill end it here :)
 

kotah

Member
For me, it takes out the fun of actually going and getting it myself instead of having a mario kart go around and do the job at hand such as getting wood, harvesting wheat, and replanting trees.
 

FrothingLuck

Most Disliked Since 2015!
To me it cheapens the game. I know we are shying away from the Vanilla server I once knew and loved, it would be nice to at least restrict it maybe? Or perhaps 1 large minecart automation that is spawn protected? I dunno just throwin around ideas
 

PD400

<3
I should say that automations are not currently on the server. They are broken. And yeah as Sgt said the results of this poll will be taken into consideration, but may be overridden unless someone can give some excellent arguments
Satan has summed up the reason why we should keep it. Lets it be available for those who want it, and those who don't want it don't have to use it. While some people feel it may cheapen their game, that doesn't mean everyone feels that way. Obviously it can be kept off on PvP.

And if it's broken at the moment, obviously we can wait. However, once it can be re-implemented, there really is no reason why we shouldn't. Nobody should expect another person to conform to their beliefs about the plugins "legitimacy".
 

SgtSpike

Site Admin & Server Owner
Staff member
Satan has summed up the reason why we should keep it. Lets it be available for those who want it, and those who don't want it don't have to use it. While some people feel it may cheapen their game, that doesn't mean everyone feels that way. Obviously it can be kept off on PvP.

And if it's broken at the moment, obviously we can wait. However, once it can be re-implemented, there really is no reason why we shouldn't. Nobody should expect another person to conform to their beliefs about the plugins "legitimacy".
That's a strong statement.

If we want to advertise the server as being 100% legitimate, we can't do so when 70% of our players are using automations. So yes, there are reasons why we could expect players to conform to our standards of legitimacy.
 

PD400

<3
I mis-phrased that. By "beliefs of legitimacy", I did not mean the servers beliefs. I've been a proponent of the server's ethos since I joined, I wouldn't change that now. What I did mean was to responds to the below quote.

For me, it takes out the fun of actually going and getting it myself instead of having a mario kart go around and do the job at hand such as getting wood, harvesting wheat, and replanting trees.
What I mean is that you aren't REQUIRED to use the plugin. Another point is that some people have gone so far to accuse proponents of automations of being cheaters. "Dirty little cheaters", to be exact. Thanks for that, by the way, Loader.

What I'm saying is, yes, it makes things easier. But it also adds a new dynamic to the game. It allows complex devices to be made with the minecarts. For example, I had planned to make a torch building system using auto tree farms. Now that is impossible because some people feel it is illegitimate.

I'm sorry if some people feel I am a troll. I have never intentionally tried to antagonize anyone. But I will not tolerate someone considering me to be a cheater because of my preference for a plugin.
 

satansoldier

Dark Member
For me, it takes out the fun of actually going and getting it myself instead of having a mario kart go around and do the job at hand such as getting wood, harvesting wheat, and replanting trees.
This is our point; You are not REQUIRED to use it. If its more fun for you to do it by hand, do it by hand.
The point of MineCraft is to make things. MM adds a more dynamic system for making things. Anybody can learn to use it, and nobody gains an unfair advantage over others by using it, since there is no point to the game itself, and therefore, no advantage to be had*.
 

bobodamonkey

Got beans?
This is our point; You are not REQUIRED to use it. If its more fun for you to do it by hand, do it by hand.
The point of MineCraft is to make things. MM adds a more dynamic system for making things. Anybody can learn to use it, and nobody gains an unfair advantage over others by using it, since there is no point to the game itself, and therefore, no advantage to be had*.
Minecraft is classified as a building, open world, sandbox games with "roleplaying" and adventure elements. Therefore, I do not believe Minecraft can ever be "legit". We make the rules as what we can and cannot do, we modify the sandbox to our content (with a few restrictions). My point is, legitimacy is what ever we set it out to be. Because of that, I agree and I think MM automations should stay due to the fact it is our choice weather or not to use it, unless the world promotes competition (pvp and maybe spheres). Now, enjoy this picture of a penguin:
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PD400

<3
Any news on whether or not we're going to re-implement automations once they're fixed? It seems like the majority consensus is that we would like them. According to the poll and the opinions given, I see no reason not to enable them again once that's possible.
 

FrothingLuck

Most Disliked Since 2015!
Any news on whether or not we're going to re-implement automations once they're fixed? It seems like the majority consensus is that we would like them. According to the poll and the opinions given, I see no reason not to enable them again once that's possible.
I don't think a 58% to 42% is a "majority consensus"
 
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