Possible 1.7 Server Changes (Vote Please)

Discussion in 'Archive' started by hacattack3000, Nov 12, 2013.

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Which would you prefer to happen?

  1. Complete Server Wipe

    25.5%
  2. Complete Server Wipe With Inventories

    60.7%
  3. Keep Server The Same

    6.1%
  4. Keep The Four Main Maps

    7.7%
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  1. hacattack3000

    hacattack3000 Retired Plugin Admin

    Since it's relevant still;
    How To Use 1.6.4 After you update to 1.7:
    If you updated do not worry! There is a simple way you can still connect to the server!

    • Launch your MC client.
    • Click "New Profile" in the lower left corner
    • Name it '1.6.4' (or whatever you want)
    • Click the dropdown menu for "use version" and select 1.6.4
    • Click Save Profile.
    • Now select the profile you just created from the dropdown menu on the lower left and hit play!
    The 1.7 update is coming and it isn't going to be nice. It in fact is going to be quite cruel to the server and will ruin just about everything. I bring a few options on what we could do and I will explain them in detail what they mean to avoid confusion. The pole will run for exactly 14 days and it will auto close once the time is up. The results after that will be final.

    To share this link with others in-game, you can use this link: http://tinyurl.com/PossibleServerChanges





    Option 1 will be, "Complete Server Wipe":
    This means I will start us over on a brand new server. The worlds would be Build1, Survival1, Secretworld1, Pvp1, Atrium1, Games1, Creative1 and new worlds will be added accordingly. All of the plugins would be renewed and changed accordingly to improve performance and plugin amounts. All players will keep their current rank though. That meaning if you earned creative rights, you will not lose them, if you donated for Vip, vip+, or sponsor, you will not lose that.

    Option 2 will be, "Complete Server Wipe With Inventories":
    This means all of the worlds would be renewed and be Build1, Survival1, Secretworld1, Pvp1, Atrium1, Games1, Creative1 and new worlds added accordingly. All plugins would be renewed and changed accordingly to improve performance/plugins amounts and as before, your status and ranks will be fine. The difference here is, before I remove the worlds, I will allow them to stay up for 2 weeks to allow players to move as many items to the new world as they want. The old worlds would be saved and in a legacy state for the duration of the 2 weeks. Once 2 weeks are up, the maps will be turned off and removed entirely.

    Option 3 will be, "Keep Server The Same":
    This means all of the worlds will not change and will instead just have their spawns moved to different locations. Now by doing this, the world sizes would remain over 20+ to 40+ GB and continue to rapidly grow which might in the near future cause map corruption as it has done before. It also would mean that the new land generation would clash and create horrible terrains which might be difficult to counter. All plugins would not be renewed but instead updated as much as possible and changed accordingly. Long and gruesome cleaning of the configs would start to take place but would not be spotless and all ranks and status would be left the same.

    Option 4 will be, "Keep The Four Main Maps":
    This means Games, Creative, Build, and Survival would be kept, but all other maps renewed. All plugins would be renewed and changed accordingly to improve performance/plugins amounts and as before, your status and ranks will be fine. The difference here is, before I remove the worlds, I will allow them to stay up for 2 weeks to allow players to move as many items to the new world as they want. The old worlds would be saved and in a legacy state for the duration of the 2 weeks. Once 2 weeks are up, the maps will be turned off and removed entirely.

    The server right now is currently 112GB large.
    If we were to take Option 1, the size would be reduced to at least 3-8 GB and grow from there.
    If we were to take Option 2, the size would be reduced to at least 8-14 GB and grow from there.
    If we were to take Option 3, the size would remain 112GB and continue to grow to at least 120GB within the next 2 weeks. At that rate, map corruption would surely follow and SgtSpike would need to buy us a bigger hard drive.
    If we were to take Option 4, the size would be reduced to at least 30 GB and grow from there.
     
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  2. strawberrymaker

    strawberrymaker New Member

    When is the last day tge server run on 1.6?
     
  3. hacattack3000

    hacattack3000 Retired Plugin Admin

    There is no definite date as it is really up to craftbukkit whenever they decide to put up a working 1.7 server jar. But even if they put out a 1.7 jar next week, the changes will wait until the voting is complete.
     
  4. MCKetec

    MCKetec New Member

    Hmm the poll needs some security - to avoid completely new accounts (1-2 days - who have nothing) or alt accoutns - screwing us over by setting wipe everything and overuling peopel who have somethign to lose.
     
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  5. hacattack3000

    hacattack3000 Retired Plugin Admin

    If it comes to that then I will check and count the votes manually to ensure no cheating happens. :p
     
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  6. coffeejunky

    coffeejunky Server Moderator

    Is there any way we can keep just creative?
    Would be a shame to lose some of the amazing structures there :(
     
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  7. Marine05

    Marine05 Server Moderator Staff Member

    ^ also the games world. I understand some plugins will go down, but most of the main games we have are so popular a replacement will come out for them. Also other parts I've already been prepping for 1.7. We could also crop out the area we've worked on if people had expanded the map in the past.
     
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  8. Marine05

    Marine05 Server Moderator Staff Member

    Also.. Those voting for complete inventory wipe? Why exactly? If you want to start new, you dont need to move any items. If we say the inventory will be completely wiped, we may lose quite a few players until the update, because why keep going if everything will soon be lost. And in that time, they may find another place rather than coming back.
    Now if we get new maps and keep the inventory, people can go on like normal and start gathering what supplies they need. After the # weeks the old maps will be deleted, bringing us down to around the same size we would have been with the complete wipe.

    [moved to a new post since i edited this in as I got a like^] [not sure if cj agrees]
     
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  9. Gibitul

    Gibitul Active Member

    Full wipe. Just sayin', save the server some trouble.
     
  10. SgtSpike

    SgtSpike Site Admin & Server Owner Staff Member

    Creative will always be kept. That's been my mantra for the world from the beginning.

    My preference would be to keep the four main maps (Creative, Games, Build, and Survival), but wipe everything else, including their submaps (the nether and end). These four maps together consume about 27GB. The main reason I'd like to see them kept is because many people have projects they are still in the middle of, and would lose all of that progress without being able to see those projects to completion, discouraging them from continuing to play here. I'm going to add this as an option to hac's poll, and allow people to change their votes if they want.

    EDIT: It looks like there is no way to allow people to edit their votes, so just post if you want to change yours!
     
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  11. MCKetec

    MCKetec New Member

    full wipe with inv. isnt problem for server - as he wrote - you would simply move your items from legacy to new map manually - and only active players.

    Build and creative wipe is fien for most as far as ingame chat goes - as long as there is a option to move over collected resources (coal,diamonts, tools, potions, etc).
     
  12. CollinstheClown

    CollinstheClown Retired old coot

    I'm all for a wipe with inventory, let make this happen!
     
  13. agaruna

    agaruna Guest

    As I see it, I'd be fine with a "weeding" stage - after keeping our inventories, we transfer all our items and mark coordinates, then after the 2-week "grace" period, we erase all player data files and/or just banned/inactive players (players offline for more than 3 weeks and who don't respond to roll call). Personally, I'd think my 1st thought is easier, but 2nd thought is a better choice.
     
  14. bloodgor

    bloodgor New Member

    Question for mod team as it relates to the server wipe. Do you guys decay older inventories over time? For example, if a player has not been active for 6 months or a year do you still keep their inventory?
     
  15. MCKetec

    MCKetec New Member

    2nd would only have to keep player fiels ( unless tehre is a way to have a new ones on new world and allow moving items inbetween both).
     
  16. CollinstheClown

    CollinstheClown Retired old coot


    They don't mess with anything. If you disappear for a while and come back it will be as if you never left. Unless you get griefed, in which case the will do a roll back and fix it.
     
  17. Arrieye

    Arrieye Deathcore For life

    Complete Server Wipe With Inventories. I can't actually play minecraft 1.6.4 online, it just doesn't work for me, and also I want a fresh start from the bottom of the pit - so to speak -. But I want other people to getr their inventories....Also is there still going to be Mine For BTC?
     
  18. MCKetec

    MCKetec New Member

    the inv kept isnt automatic
    Peopel simply have the option to move their items from legacy to new server. You can simply start at the new map and not transfer anything.
     
  19. Arrieye

    Arrieye Deathcore For life

    I know, that's what I said.
     
  20. pirsonaly i know about 10 people that would quit the server including me if the server gets wiped cus we have to much stuff that we would loose. (me, thybest, crankyaaron, crankypapa, ect.)
     
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